This is Kyle Worley, and I'm joined by my co-host, Jen Wilkin, J.T. English. It has been

providentially ordained, predestined, purposed, allowed, permitted that we would have this episode of Knowing Faith. How are we feeling today?

Jen? Did you get the S-R-th out for that? No, I didn't. Was, did you, did you, did you, did you

manufacture the Lisp or did you, was it accidental and then you played it off? It started and

then I'm like, I'm just going to lean in. I know, the punches and honestly. Any listener who has a lisp that was not a mocking lisp, that was an actual moment. An actual moment. A Freudian slip. Hey, J.T. How are you feeling, man? You're looking, J.T., you've got the hat on and the hoodie,

and I'm telling you, you've got real church planner energy going on right now, my brother. I'm not thinking a church planner, man. I'm just trying to dress the part. No, me, we're doing good. I love fall in Colorado. There's just a vibrancy. Uh-oh, here it comes. Here we go. I mean, I love every season in color.

There's four seasons.

Have you guys experienced them?

I've heard of them.

Spring.

There's summer.

Okay, so right now we're in this beautiful fall, crisp air, which is great. I love it. I'm doing good, man. Do you guys remember that episode years ago where you made fun of me for calling what JT is wearing a ball cap? Yeah. Do you know how many times I've heard people say ball cap since then? And I just want to call you every single time and hold up the phone and have them say it. Where are you in your ball cap?

I'm with normal people who say normal things. Yeah, I bet you are. Yeah. Yeah, I know the people you hang out when you're not hanging out with us and normal is not the first word I'd use to describe them. There's the kind of people who play Scrabble and like do it like seriously. Yeah. It's our Olympics. I mean, there's a lot of stuff I didn't get. I didn't get baseball, clearly. Before we jumped on to record today, Jen did tell us, she mentioned some people that JT and I either know directly or indirectly. And I won't, I'm not going to castigate them or mock them. I don't have a friendship. Because they will hear this. They will hear this. And I don't want to embarrass. I don't mind embarrassing Jen, but I don't want to embarrass these people I don't know. But Jen was like, yeah, I, I'm on a, I'm on a word puzzle, word game text message chain. And then she mentioned off a bunch of like evangelical luminaries and uh that we'll call them big Eva there's the big Eva the big Eva scrambling.

Bogle with Big Eva. Yeah, nailed it. And we were like, of course you are nerd.

It's a it's a tough group.

I was like, I will join, but I just need you to know that there is nothing more serious to me than my word games.

And if you guys are just messing around, I don't want to be in this group.

And they were like, you have stumbled across the correct group.

Man.

Yeah.

Well, listen, you didn't stumble across that group, Jen. It wasn't an

accident. It wasn't something that just happened. It wasn't blind luck or dumb chance.

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