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🗓️ 25 June 2025
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0:00.0 | Joel, welcome back to the podcast. The last time that you were here, we didn't get into the topic of vaccines. And today, that's the entire episode. And I'm excited to jump into it. You have a new book. But one of the first mind-blowing things that I want to go into in this conversation, which is really about vaccine safety. It's about making vaccines better. It's about having people |
0:22.4 | have informed consent. I want to talk about something kind of mind-blowing that I didn't even really |
0:27.4 | realize until I read your book. And that fact is, that mind-blowing fact is that a lot of times |
0:34.1 | when we hear that vaccines are placebo-controlled tested, they are, but there's a caveat with that a lot of times when we hear that vaccines are placebo controlled tested, they are, but there's a caveat |
0:40.2 | with that that a lot of people actually don't know. Can you explain that caveat before we start |
0:45.1 | off the conversation big picture? Yeah, definitely. And thanks for having me back. I'm excited to chat. |
0:50.5 | The big picture really is the meaning of the word placebo. So technically it's supposed to mean an inert |
0:56.4 | substance, like salt water, saline, but for a lot of the vaccine studies, the placebo is actually |
1:01.6 | another vaccine, or it's the vaccine minus the active ingredient like the antigen. So there's still, |
1:08.3 | it's not really an inert placebo. And so that's where a lot of times |
1:11.5 | we get these conversations where people say, oh, they've been placebo tested. And other people say, |
1:15.1 | no, they haven't. It's because they have a different definition of placebo. The vast majority, |
1:19.4 | almost all the vaccines on the current childhood schedule in America haven't been inert placebo |
1:24.6 | controlled tested prior to being licensed. Why is that important for people to understand or why is it important to be a part of the |
1:31.5 | conversation? |
1:32.5 | It's very important because that's the best way to do safety research. |
1:35.8 | So when you're looking at the best possible study, the gold standard study, you want to |
1:41.9 | be testing it against an inert placebo so you can see |
1:45.1 | any sort of safety concerns. The best example would be if you were studying two vaccines against |
1:51.1 | each other and both groups, you had 10 kids get seizures. Well, you could say with that study, |
1:56.8 | well, both groups had 10 seizures, so therefore there's no increased safety risks versus if you did two vaccines versus inert placebo, both groups had 10 seizures, so therefore there's no increased safety risks versus |
2:01.6 | if you did two vaccines versus inert placebo, both groups had 10, but then the inert group had |
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