Welcome to Pushback. I'm Aaron Mate. Today we're talking about the latest and the unfolding mystery of the Jeffrey Epstein case.

My guest is Leonard Goodman. He is a criminal defense attorney in Chicago who has been writing about the Epstein case at the Chicago Reader.

Welcome, Leonard. Last time we spoke to you was before Epstein's death. Since then,

so much to get to. What stands out to you about how he died?

Well, I mean, his lawyer, I think what stands out to me is his lawyers think he was murdered.

There's certainly suspicious circumstances. There was another incident that was not

completely looked into that was apparently an assault on his life. And the other thing that's

interesting is that apparently the video camera was not functioning outside of his cell,

which obviously would have provided some important information.

So, you know, I think a lot of people are rightly concerned, and this is one of the things that,

you know, the press has looked at is some of the problems that went on in the MCC.

I think, you know, I think what I like to do is look at the known facts here, which are that, you know, this, he was investigated back in 2005.

They raided his Palm Beach home back then.

They had all this evidence.

They had identified 36 underage victims of sex trafficking.

They apparently had found hidden cameras in his Palm Beach home suggesting that there was

some sort of sexual blackmail operation that he was operating.

A 53-page indictment was prepared back then.

The investigation ends with this unusual non-prosecution agreement that grants, not only did the

feds decide not to prosecute Epstein, but they grant immunity to all of his potential co-conspirators,

which is something that I've never seen in a non-prosecution agreement.

The other thing is it's kept secret from his victims, which was apparently illegal.

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