Hi, this is Mark Kermode. Thanks for downloading this Kermode on film podcast or indeed watching us on YouTube.

I'm joined once again by Jack Howard. Hello. What are we talking about? We are going to be talking about the BAFTAs. It was the BAFTAs on Sunday. And surprise, surprise, we have thoughts. But also we're going to be talking about do awards matter at all? Who cares? Can anyone even remember them? If it's okay with you, Mark, I would like to begin this by being quite sincere. Okay, now I'm worried. Yeah, I wanted to talk about this for a while, and I didn't know how much. No, we're not. No, no, no, no. Is it something I did? No, it's nothing that you've done. Is it you? It's me. It's not me.

It's you.

It's nothing to do with you.

I'm sorry, I've been through this scenario before and I'm actually

said, I don't like the way this sounds.

I would just really like to talk to you about it. What have I done? You've done nothing.

Okay.

The BAFTAs were last night.

Okay, fine, fine, okay.

And we talked about that anybody who's been a long-time listener of the show,

especially since we've made the return.

Yes. Are we calling it the return? I think so. So we should call it a comment on film, a limited event series. What was it that they called it? I don't know. Because it was originally, it was the return, but then they said, no, no, it's called a limited event series or something ridiculous anyway. I like the return.

Yeah, the return.

That's good. it that they called it because it was originally it was the return but then they said no no it's called a limited event series or something ridiculous anyway so i like the return yeah the return

that's good since the return i i have i made my film the second time around yes you did and in all

of the time since we've been doing this for the second part of of since the return yes i have

been leading up to this time of year. With the awards and stuff. And when I made the second time around, which is a short film, it's on Channel 4 if anybody wants to watch it. Very good short film. I'm so proud of it. Yeah, it's terrific. It's terrific. Everyone who's seen it loves it. I haven't met. I haven't, no, but I haven't met anyone. I wasn't like hunting for a compliment.

I promise you that. Anybody listening. You know the thing that my wife says to me. She says, you don't, you don't fish for compliments. You troll for them. She says it about me, not you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She doesn't say, bringing me up. Jack Howard, he doesn't fish for compliments each horse for them.

When I made the film, I never, ever expected that it would have any kind of,

it would never have a conversation around whether or not it would be up for any kind of

awards or anything.

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