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The Breakdown

Are AI Agents Actually Using Crypto? | The Breakdown

The Breakdown

Blockworks

Business, Investing

4.8806 Ratings

🗓️ 7 April 2026

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

AI agents are coming online fast — and the payment rails for that world are being built right now. David breaks down the race between Coinbase’s x402 and Stripe’s Machine Payments Protocol, the rise of agentic commerce, and why crypto may have a natural edge, before sitting down with Jordan Liu of AIsa. __ TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (01:30) Tool Time (03:45) AI-doption (05:48) Nexo Ad (06:30) When in Doubt, Incentivize (07:36) Interview with Jordan Liu (12:24) Nexo Ad and Blockworks IR Promo (14:09) Interview with Jordan Liu (Con’t) __ › Jordan Liu (AIsa) —https://aisa.one/ › David — https://x.com/dcanellis SPONSORS › NEXO Nexo is the premier digital wealth platform. Receive interest on your crypto, borrow against it without selling, and trade a range of assets. Now available in the U.S with 30 days of exclusive privileges. Get started at http://nexo.com/breakdown Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to the Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ DISCLAIMER As always, remember this podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely their opinions, not financial advice.

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0:00.0

If you believe Jensen Huang, Sam Altman and Elon Musk,

0:03.0

then you already know that we're destined to inhabit a digital world

0:06.0

massively overpopulated with autonomous AI agents.

0:09.0

And it's not only the usual suspects who are super bullish on agents.

0:12.0

Matthew Prince, the CEO of Cloudflare,

0:14.0

recently projected that in 2027, the amount of bot traffic online

0:18.0

will exceed the amount of human traffic, which is only next year.

0:21.1

We just think that the use of the internet is going to explode over the next several years,

0:27.4

and what is using it is going to change dramatically.

0:30.2

What's funny is that crypto has already lived with this reality for years.

0:33.8

It's been the case throughout crypto's history that trade in bots, points farming,

0:37.4

algorithms, and automated smart contracts have at times made up the lion's share of on-chain for years. It's been the case throughout crypto's history that trading bots, points farming,

0:41.6

algorithms and automated smart contracts have at times made up the lion's share of on-chain activity for certain networks, particularly when it comes to transaction counts, which I suppose

0:45.9

explains why we've been so quick to take up the on-chain agentic meta and run with it.

0:50.1

And it's not that the agentic crypto crossover is not compelling, especially when you consider that it hugely spans crypto's total addressable market beyond a mere billion or so people that might adopt it to a hypothetically infer a number of AI agents that might use crypto rails to pay for all sorts of things, executing trades and arbitrage on behalf of, and maybe even in spite of, their human beneficiaries. It's all very optimistic and even somewhat plausible, but if OpenClaw is supposed to be the

1:14.2

fastest adopted open source software in history, then crypto should be in for a similarly

1:18.5

fast road to adoption.

1:20.0

So are they here yet?

1:21.1

Time to find out.

1:22.3

I'm your host David Canales and this is The Breakdown.

1:24.6

Let's get to it.

1:36.5

This episode is brought to you by Nexo.

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