ARCHIVAL EP #04 Fresh Starts: Step Into Your Future
Mind Shift with Erwin & Aaron McManus
Erwin McManus + Aaron McManus
4.8 • 1.2K Ratings
🗓️ 8 August 2025
⏱️ 58 minutes
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Summary
In this episode of the Mind Shift Podcast, Aaron and Erwin McManus sit down in London to explore what it means to start over, especially in a post-pandemic world where anxiety, purposelessness, and doubt are widespread. Erwin shares the origin story of Mosaic—a church launched in a nightclub designed to welcome atheists, agnostics, and believers alike—and how creating a space where people could belong before they believed became a radical act of inclusion. The conversation dives deep into mental health, personal trauma, and the healing power of community, emphasizing that true transformation must begin from within. They discuss the balance between faith and action, the dangers of waiting for permission to do good, and the importance of proactivity in living out one’s purpose. Creativity and spirituality are woven together as vital expressions of human potential, and Erwin challenges the notion that religious institutions should separate the two. From overcoming creative blocks and embracing imperfection to the fragile, essential work of building authentic community, the episode offers a vision of life rooted in self-acceptance, courage, and connection. As the discussion closes, Erwin extends an invitation to join Mosaic London and take the next step—whether in faith, creativity, or becoming part of something bigger than yourself.
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening to the Mind Shift podcast. My name's Air McManus, and I'm here with my dad, |
| 0:03.0 | Erwin Raphael McManus, and all of our new friends in London. |
| 0:05.6 | We're here live in London. |
| 0:06.9 | In London. |
| 0:11.7 | This is so much fun. |
| 0:13.8 | It could be fun. |
| 0:16.0 | It will be fun. |
| 0:17.2 | I haven't decided yet. |
| 0:19.3 | I think we should talk about what you were telling me earlier about how do you start afresh? |
| 0:24.6 | How do you begin a new? |
| 0:26.6 | Yeah. |
| 0:27.6 | Because one of the things that we've experienced a lot is coming out of the pandemic, coming out of the |
| 0:32.6 | quarantine, even though we're several years out of it, people are still struggling with moving into a new future. |
| 0:40.9 | A lot of people seem to be trapped, almost paralyzed, emotionally, psychologically, even spiritually. |
| 0:48.3 | And it seems that so many conversations we have are around a sense of purposelessness and that people just feel as if |
| 0:57.8 | they're drifting through life. And that can develop so much anxiety, so much stress, so much depression. |
| 1:06.0 | I think that's a really important subject. I think it's an important subject. I think it's |
| 1:09.4 | something that I've also struggled with my entire life, like how to actually have a fresh start and how to have a new start. And then especially like within the context of faith and God, I think I was 10, 11, 12, and I came to you and I said, you know, what do I do if I don't know if I believe in God? And what did you say to me? Yeah, we were driving in a car and he was just a little kid, |
| 1:30.8 | really small, maybe eight, nine. I'm always eight or nine in your stories. No, you're always 10. I moved |
| 1:35.7 | you younger. I was always, I met one of our clients. We have a business together, a few businesses |
| 1:41.4 | together and one of our clients that we've known for a long time, he's this amazing Korean guy, and he's like this monster businessman, and he came to me, and he sat me down and was like, dude, I thought you were 12. And we had breakfast, and I was like, no, I'm 36, and he's like, that's super weird. What happened after 12? And I was like, I don't know. He just never talked about me ever again. |
| 2:03.7 | That's because he went wild, so I didn't want to tell everybody. At 12? I'm just kidding. No, no. |
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