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Another Day with Ana Marie Cox

"ARA: Ask Rick Anything!"

Another Day with Ana Marie Cox

Ana Marie Cox and Open Mike Eagle

News, Arts, Performing Arts, Business, Society & Culture, Politics

4.66.4K Ratings

🗓️ 31 August 2018

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

On this week’s pod, Ana (@anamariecox) checked back in with Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) to do something different: answer questions from listeners. Their wide-ranging conversation kicked off with Ana asking Rick to put on his strategist hat, and analyze the governor’s races in Florida and Georgia, and the Senate races in Tennessee, Florida, and Texas. Ana then asked Rick how he will vote in the Florida gubernatorial election, before going deeper on how/when Never Trumpers will vote for Democrats. They then changed course, and talked about Rick’s future career prospects as well as what a Never Trumper needs to do for liberals and progressives to trust them. Rick and Ana closed things out by talking about their memories of John McCain, from the perspective of someone who worked for a pro-McCain super PAC and a journalist who covered him, and what they like about each other. Get in touch with us on Twitter at @crooked_friends or email us at [email protected] Thank you to our sponsors! Visit stamps.com, click on the microphone at the top and enter FRIENDS for up to $55 in free postage, a four-week trial and a free digital scale. Check out Ana’s personal collection and get free shipping on your first order at everlane.com/friends.

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0:00.0

Hi, I'm Annamarie Cox and welcome to With Friends Like These, the show where we talk about the differences between us without letting them divide us.

0:09.0

And this week's show is an especially on-point presentation of that idea because it's our monthly check-in with Republican strategist Rick Wilson, who is hot off the book trail.

0:21.0

He has a number one New York Times bestseller. I am pretty sure there are some people in the audience who might have bought the book already.

0:28.0

If you haven't, it is called Everything Trump Touch His Dies, and Republican strategist gets real about the worst president ever.

0:35.0

It is funny and impure-ating in equal measures because that's who Rick is.

0:39.0

And without much further ado, here's our conversation which this week was structured by you, the audience, because we went on on Twitter and asked what would you like to ask Rick?

0:50.0

It is our ask Rick Wilson anything episode, something we'll probably do again. With no further ado, here he is.

0:58.0

So it's interesting when I went to listeners to ask you questions, a lot of them had really much more specific questions than the kind of stuff you and I generally talk about, which is pretty philosophical, I think.

1:11.0

And they want to talk about some specific races. They want your insight as a strategist on specific races.

1:18.0

So since that is happening right now, let's talk about it. Let's talk about Florida just for instance.

1:25.0

Let's talk Florida.

1:26.0

Yeah.

1:27.0

Well, the two big Marpsley races, obviously, the governor's race, kind of between the Sanctus and Andrew Dylan.

1:33.0

Both sides got their fondest ideological wish. You've got a Trump or on one side and a semi-Bernie bro on the other.

1:44.0

I will point out, wait, wait, just one thing. He did support Hillary Clinton. Gillum did.

1:50.0

So it's not.

1:51.0

So I know.

1:52.0

Okay.

1:53.0

All right.

1:54.0

But what we have here is a situation where the two candidates are talking from the edges out, not from the edges in.

2:04.0

And so Andrew Dylan is talking to the most progressive Democrats. The Sanctus is talking to the Trumpiest of Trumpers.

2:11.0

And both of these guys are going to do a base only race, which is going to leave a huge number of voters in the middle, unaddressed unless one of them makes a pivot at some point.

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