4.6 • 6.4K Ratings
🗓️ 24 August 2018
⏱️ 57 minutes
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0:00.0 | Hi, I'm Anna Marie Cox and welcome to With Friends Like These, the show where we talk about the differences between us without letting them divide us. |
0:11.0 | So I am a little self-conscious about how much I talk about my recovery on this show. |
0:17.0 | I am self-conscious in part because 12-step programs have kind of conflicting traditions about being out. |
0:25.0 | And so I'm always thinking about that. |
0:28.0 | And I'm self-conscious because I do get some feedback that my recovery is not really relevant to the show. |
0:34.0 | Which, you know, it's my show, but it's your show too. So okay. |
0:39.0 | So in general, I try to keep the recovery talked to a minimum except when it seems really relevant. |
0:48.0 | But it's relevant a lot of the time for me. |
0:52.0 | It's relevant because the paradigm of recovery, of relinquishing a crutch that has become a weapon is a great paradigm for understanding one's place as an abuser of power. |
1:05.0 | Whether that's the power of whiteness or patriarchy or ableism. |
1:09.0 | And in case you haven't noticed, abuse of power is a major theme for the show. |
1:16.0 | The show takes its name from a phrase with friends like these who needs enemies that is essentially a tiny parable about the abuse of power. |
1:28.0 | The saying the show takes its name from with friends like these who needs enemies is essentially a tiny parable about the abuse of power. |
1:38.0 | And the way that I see it, I am an abuser of whiteness in the same way I'm a drug addict. |
1:44.0 | I didn't choose to be an addict. I'm not a bad person because I'm an addict. But once I realized my addiction was harmful to myself and others, I became responsible for the damage done. |
1:54.0 | And I became responsible for taking steps to keep me from acting on my addiction. |
2:00.0 | But I will also never stop being an addict. There won't come a time when the easy answers that I get from drugs will stop being appealing to me. |
2:10.0 | I have to actively create alternative behaviors for myself and I have to watch out for falling into behaviors that should they continue will lead me to using. |
2:21.0 | I also didn't choose to reap the benefits of whiteness. I am also not a bad person because I received those benefits. |
2:30.0 | But now that I know the damage that systemic oppression has done and does, I am responsible for taking steps to undo that damage and I am responsible for how I use my own whiteness. |
2:42.0 | And I will never stop being white. I will never stop being tempted by the easy answers that whiteness offers me. |
2:50.0 | I have to actively create alternative behaviors. |
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