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The Playbook Podcast

April 17, 2025: Inside the Lutnick-Trump alliance

The Playbook Podcast

POLITICO

News, Daily News, Politics, Government

3.9699 Ratings

🗓️ 17 April 2025

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

Everyone is dispensable in Trump world, but don’t expect the president to get rid of his commerce secretary even when the going gets tough. Trump and Lutnick’s storied friendship goes far beyond business. Even with the tariff rollout proving chaotic, the chances Trump ousts his closest friend from his cabinet are slim. Capitol bureau chief and senior Washington columnist Rachael Bade joins Playbook managing editor Jack Blanchard to dig in.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Presented by BP.

0:05.6

Hello, good morning. This is Playbooks Managing Editor and author Jack Blanchard. It is Thursday, April 17th,

0:12.7

and there is a lot going on in D.C. this week. The big news this morning, driving the day,

0:18.8

if you like, will be the arrival of the Italian leader,

0:21.1

Georgia Maloney into the White House. We will see that famous scene that we've all come used to

0:26.1

watching over the last few weeks of Donald Trump sat there with a leader alongside them.

0:30.2

And a journalist throwing questions at them. So that will be a big moment. And they will

0:33.8

be talking about trade and tariffs, the main thing on every overseas leader's mind when they meet the president at the moment.

0:40.4

The other story that everyone's talking about, of course, are the various court cases surrounding the deportation of all those people to El Salvador last month.

0:47.8

And you can expect that to dominate the conversation as well today.

0:51.1

Two different judges going at the White House in two different ways over that,

0:54.8

and you just know that that is going to keep people occupied throughout the rest of the week and

0:58.4

for many weeks to come. And there is a court case happening this afternoon that many in the

1:02.6

White House will be watching over the decision to try and keep the Associated Press out of

1:07.3

Donald Trump's briefing. There will be lots of people, certainly in my profession,

1:11.0

watching that one closely. But I want to talk about tariffs as our main thing today and about how

1:15.6

the White House is dealing with this tariff policy. And I'm delighted to say that we have with us,

1:20.1

our Capital Bureau Chief and Senior Washington Correspondent, Rachel Bade. Rachel, good morning.

1:24.4

How are you doing? Hey there, Jack. How are you? Good to be with you.

1:28.3

It is a pleasure to have you. This tariff's thing, since Donald Trump's Liberation Day,

1:33.7

it has just dominated the discourse. Other stories have come and gone, but this just keeps coming

1:38.0

back. We've seen it causing such a roller coaster on the market. It's dominating the thoughts

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