Hello, Europe. We are back. Welcome to another episode of the Europeans, the podcast about current affairs, culture and life in general on this beautiful, damp continent that we call

home. I am Katie Lee. I am a British foreign correspondent based in Paris, and I'm joined by

my very good friend on the other end of Skype in Amsterdam, the handsome opera singer Dominic

Kramer. Handsome? Wow, thanks, Katie.

Do you like it when I call you handsome?

Do you feel like it's subjectification?

I like it, but I also think it like places pressure on me,

and I feel like people are going to Google me and realize that I'm not actually as handsome as you are making me out to be.

Very handsome.

Oh, stop it.

I've got low standards.

Yeah, apparently. But I also like the description that I'm on the other end of Skype,

as if it's like a binary thing.

It's like a piece of string connected by two cups.

It is just like that.

That would explain why you have so much trouble using Skype if that's what you think it is.

I'm really good at Skype.

I don't know what you're talking about.

How are you? I'm good, yeah. Although I went to see a piece of theatre here in Amsterdam last night that was racist. Oh, what happened in it? Well, it was seven

white actors and they all play various different characters, but there were two of the white women

played American Chinese or Chinese people at certain points.

And they did it in such an uncomfortable way.

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