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Uncanny Valley | WIRED

Apple’s Next Chapter; SpaceX and Cursor Strike A Deal; Palantir’s Controversial Manifesto

Uncanny Valley | WIRED

WIRED

Technology

4.1572 Ratings

🗓️ 23 April 2026

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

This week, the team discusses what’s next for Apple as Tim Cook steps down from his role as CEO. They also go into the reasoning behind SpaceX and Cursor’s surprising deal, and why Palantir’s self-published manifesto drew so much heat online. Also — we discuss why some conspiracy theorists are leaving Trump’s side, and how a scammer created an AI-generated woman to attract and grift MAGA men.

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0:00.0

Hey, it's Brian.

0:02.3

Zoe, Leah, and I have really enjoyed being your new host these past few weeks, and we want

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to hear from you.

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your choice.

0:11.5

It really helps us reach more people.

0:13.1

And for any questions and comments, you can always reach us at Uncanny Valley at Wired.com.

0:17.5

Thank you for listening.

0:18.6

On to the show.

0:23.9

Zoe, welcome back.

0:25.7

Thank you.

0:26.2

Thank you.

0:26.8

I missed you so much.

0:29.0

And I missed you the exact same amount.

0:32.0

Wow.

0:32.5

It's not a contest.

0:34.0

I feel so loved.

0:35.7

I'm going to go away more often.

0:41.4

Absence makes the heart go ponder, as we all know, and I'm thrilled to be here.

0:47.6

Welcome to Wired's Uncanny Valley. I'm Zoe Schiffer, director of business and industry.

0:52.3

I'm Brian Barrett, executive editor. And I'm Leah Feigert, director of politics and science.

0:57.8

This week on the show, we're saying goodbye to Apple CEO Tim Cook, who announced that he is stepping down from the top gig at the company.

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