Hi, Chris Balleton here. Welcome to my podcast, where I hope to inspire you to transform the world

within you and transform the world around you. I hope you enjoyed today's episode.

Hi, welcome the cultural catalyst where we teach you how to live fully live, co-laid with God,

and change the world. And this is episode two.

I have Bany Leipshire with us.

We had Gabe on, Pastor Gabe on, last week, and we're going to have Haley on in a few minutes.

I love talking to Gabe because Gabe and I worked together for so long.

It's like all the stories.

It's amazing doing a podcast with you because after 30 years of knowing each other, there's so much to draw on. It's to go back and go. It can be brutal. We all grew up together. Yeah. We sort of told Gabe, like, don't tell any of the bad stories on us. It's totally what it. You were pretty bold. You're the child we learned on. If you haven't listened to it,

go listen to it. Because you were pretty bold. I wonder if it's going to make it in the final cut when you're like, okay, be honest right now. What's the problem you have with me? I was sitting in the middle going, oh, my gosh. Yeah, we recorded it. I'm like, oh, we could always cut that out. You still, I'm assuming you still sign his paychecks.

Well, I don't know if I sign anybody's payche that out. You still, I'm assuming you still sign his paychecks.

Well, I don't know if I sign anybody's paychecks, but I do oversee that.

And, you know, and the goal of that first podcast, as you know, because we just finished that,

is that we would talk about how apostles of prophets and pastors lead together.

Yeah.

And I thought that was really great. And we're going to

bring Haley on in a few minutes and talk about how a woman and a prophetess who's, you know, who's actually,

you know, leading in our environment, how she gets along with the rest of the apostles and the prophets.

And we got, you know, the five-fold ministry, really.

Here's the, give me your take on this because I, we are going to say some things about her before she comes on. No, no, not about Haley. I love Haley. They have, I was actually talking about this. We have the pastors, how does the apostle and the pastor and the prophet get along? but the profit conversation is going to be so much more spicy

because I do feel like profits are way more messmakers than pastors.

Like pastors don't rock the boat as much.

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