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Welcome back to WasitReal, the Hills Rewatch podcast. I'm Frankie Delgado, here with my co-host,

my favorite person, Adriana Patrick, Heidi Monteprat. We'll be right with us and Brody Jenner,

who is available to join us today, unfortunately. He's still on his little baby moon,

but he will be with us in the next episodes. Today, we are breaking down season two, episode 10,

Apology Not Accepted. It originally aired on March 19th, 2007, so it's been a while.

It's been 16 years. We have Andrew Perry here with us today.

We have the magical and amazing. I like your introduction better.

It's great to be here. He's one of our favorites on the show. He's actually been for our new

listeners. He was on a few of the previous podcasts. It's really nice to have you, Andrew,

because you clear things up for us. Things get a little blurry sometimes, and we have a lot of

questions about Jen Bunny, and she pops up in this episode again. A lot of questions.

I'll answer everything I can, contractually, of course. No, it's great to be here. Thank you.

It's fun watching the show again, even though it was, as you said, a while ago.

I'm sure it was crazy for us, too, but I'm sure as being a producer on the hills, it was crazy

for you guys going through everything with editing, and then we were talking about the paparazzi,

whenever we were filming, and just having to... There's a ton of moving parts. Also, as I was

watching that, I was realizing how much how we shot, played a role, and how we told the story.

The night of Lauren's party, birthday party that's in this episode, that all happened in a row,

but a lot of the prep for it was a day before I'm sure we did prep stuff afterwards, too,

which is the stuff that you don't usually think of. We're guiding the story. We're trying to

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