Well, all three of us have been critics of the program, and I suppose we still remain critics of the program, but Artemis II has cleared the pad and is on its way to the moon, and we are going back for the first time in a very long time, and there's some interesting things about this that I thought we might talk about.

Hi, everybody, I'm Bill Little here with Steve Green and Scottott.

And gentlemen, once it looked like this was really going to happen and so on, I did a live thing with Daily Wire and watched the Artemis II launch and got off the pad and off it went.

And I ended up looking back at a couple of episodes of the Apollo 11, what we saw series that did back in 2019.

And I was struck by something.

The thing that really seems to me to be like the major, like,

fundamental difference between the Artemis program and the Apollo program

is the, is the tempo of operations.

And that's the thing I kind of want to talk about.

Because the time

that it flew last was what two three years ago um three years yeah okay so we're going around the moon

that's a big deal that we haven't been back we you can legitimately say we're going back to the moon

and i think that's awesome and i'm 100% on board with that but nobody really knows when the next

mission is going to be let alone when the landing's going to be. We don't have a lander. I haven't even seen a credible design for a lander yet that's in the pre-mockup stage. So look, I'm glad we're going. But the operational tempo is so much lower. And what's interesting to me is it's also a very low-tempo trip to the moon.

So let me explain what I mean by that.

We first went around the moon, to the moon, in 1968 in December with Apollo 8.

And the Apollo 8 mission consisted of this.

We didn't have a lander.

That's fine.

Orion doesn't have a lander either. So Apollo 8 went into Earth orbit. I think we did probably three orbits to make sure everything was secure. We lit the third stage on the Saturn 5, and this thing pumped us directly to the moon. No fooling around. We don't have time to waste. This is Apollo, and we are steel-eyed missile man and we're not here for sightseeing tour.

So that orbit, that trajectory rather, took us pretty much directly to the moon.

We had enough energy to slow down, go into lunar orbit, orbited the moon.

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