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The Owen Jones Podcast

Apartheid Israel Attacks Funeral

The Owen Jones Podcast

Owen Jones

Politics, Government, News & Politics, News

4.41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 16 May 2022

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

The Israeli state not only killed iconic Al-Jazeera journalist Shireen Abu Aqla - the police force then attacked her funeral procession. Much of the world is shocked - but governments continue to arm and back the Israeli state, disregarding the conclusions of Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch and B'Tselem that it is guilty of Apartheid. Is the Israeli state overreaching so much that Western public opinion will shift decisively against it?


We talk to Salem Barahmeh, Executive Director of Rabet, and Sarit Michaeli from Israeli human rights organisation B'Tselem, about what's happening on the ground, whether accountability is possible, what the mood is - and what happens next.


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0:00.0

Hello, hello, hello. Welcome to the show. It's been a pretty grim week for many, many reasons.

0:14.2

But in the Middle East, in Palestine, we've seen the killing of Shereen Abou Akhler

0:21.2

and iconic. And I think it really needs to be emphasised in an iconic journalist who works for

0:26.5

Al Jazeera. If you speak to anyone in the Middle East, they will say that they grew up

0:32.3

often watching her news reports. It's almost impossible to separate her from the way that people

0:39.5

across Middle East understand particularly what's happening, of course, in Palestine. Now she was

0:44.0

shot dead by Israeli forces. That, of course, was sickening enough, but what we then saw was her

0:51.6

funeral being attacked by Israeli police. I think it's just worth just having a quick look. We've

0:58.4

got some of the footage, some of you may have seen this. I'm not going to show the footage of

1:02.0

a shooting, which is obviously extremely distressing, and many of you will have seen it already.

1:06.8

But look, just for those obviously people listening to the podcast, you'll just hear the music.

1:12.0

But let's just have a look at a close-up of what happened with her poor bearers and her coffin

1:18.9

during the funeral.

1:49.0

Really shocking stuff. And the Israeli narrative that, for example, the poor bearers were throwing

2:11.4

rocks, etc. not born out at all. In fact, the footage has been repeatedly dissected and analysed.

2:18.0

Obviously, we live in a world now where people can use social media and share these videos and

2:21.9

then analyse them themselves. Just doesn't bear out the official Israeli narrative at all. I think

2:27.4

it's quite striking, actually, that even people who've been often quite reticent to criticise

2:34.0

Israel, the occupation, certainly not the apartheid system, which human rights watch,

2:39.1

Amnesty International and Betsyland have documented, have actually come out and condemned it.

2:43.4

So it's, I mean, the fact that we've seen the shooting dead of an iconic journalist

2:50.2

and then the attack on a funeral was obviously too much even for some defenders of Israel

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