In December 2020, a Latino couple was falsely accused by a white momfluencer of attempting to kidnap her children.

The Karen phenomenon where white women falsely accuse people of color of crimes usually fixates on the

accuser the so-called Karen. But for this series we focus on the

innocent couple at the heart of this story. I just want the public to know

what she did was wrong.

In Perfect Paradise People versus Karen.

Available now wherever you get your podcasts. Hello and welcome to Goodwin. The show in which a comedian comes on to play a clip of one of their jokes and then discusses how they wrote it and how it fits into what they're trying to do with their comedy.

I'm your host, Volchre Senior Editor, Jesse David Fox.

Comedy is in therapy, but it does have a similar ability

of reframing challenging experiences and feelings

in a way that just feels lighter and more manageable.

It also gives people a vocabulary to understand,

the hard to understand.

So considering, you know, everything.

I wanted to rerun this episode from the great stand-up comedian

a Parnan on Charla about her joke about anxiety. The funny thing, as sometimes happens on this show,

I remember when she started doing this joke.

Aparna moved to New York from LA in late 2012 to work on totally biased with W. Camel Bell.

Around then, I'd see her perform her deeply silly act around Brooklyn.

And then I distinctly remember when her material shifted.

The silliness was still there in parts, but now a Parn was talking about her struggles with

depression and anxiety. This episode is about that breakthrough. How her career in comedy is so connected to her history with mental illness,

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