In December 2020, a Latino couple was falsely accused by a white momfelancer of attempting to kidnap her children.

The Karen phenomenon where white women falsely accuse people of color of crimes usually fixates on the accuser, the so-called

Karen. But for this series we focus on the innocent couple at the heart of this story.

I just want the public to know what she did was wrong.

In Perfect Paradise People versus Karen,

available now wherever you get your podcasts.

Hey, it's Jesse.

Just want to let you know in the interview you're going to hear, Sarah mistakenly

identified a radio host who was fired for making racist tweets. She said it was Opie, but it was in fact

Opie's former co-host Anthony Kumio. Hi, hello, how's it going? Yeah, I know, but welcome to Good One, a podcast about jokes. I'm your host,

Volcher Senior Editor, Jesse David Fox. Each episode a comedian comes on to play a clip of one of their jokes

and then discusses how they wrote it and how it fits into what they're trying to do with their comedy.

Sometimes the jokes are small, like a baby, but you know, like a small baby.

The joke will be a minute long, maybe two will be a one-liner or two-liner.

I think for the Neil Brennan episode it was like a short three second throwaway line. Other times the

jokes are big babies, I know as a former big baby. Jen Kirkman, Bill Burr, Tignetaro, they all

had jokes well over 10 minutes. No one touches Gary Goldman whose joke was an unbelievable 25 minutes, but this week's joke definitely tries.

The joke writer in question, and my guests today, is stand-up comedianup comedian TV writer and soon-to-be author

Sarah Schaefer. The subject is her 16-and-a-half minute Magnum Opus about our first

trip to Hobby Lobby, the infamous Arts and Crafts store who's best known for winning a Supreme Court case that allow them to offer health insurance policies that excluded covering certain birth controls.

Last week, our guest Daniel Sla, spoke about the Edinburgh Fringe Festival from the perspective of a UK comedian and how they're expected to bring a new show there every year.

In this episode, Sarah talks about what the festival is like for comedians coming from America, try their hands at adapting their style to something that leans closer to the one-person show.

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