We have this idea of two classes of citizens in the church.

That's been, I think it's a massive impediment to the mission of God that the church still has not fully wrestled to the ground.

Welcome everybody, this is Simon Gilbo with Inspired, and I'm super excited this week to have an old friend.

We go back to 2003, Jonathan Tison. Welcome, Jonathan.

Hey, Simon, great to be with you.

Yeah, it's good to have you now. Those of you are trying to recognize accents.

Jonathan is in Atlanta, Georgia, but he is not American.

He is Canadian.

We met at all nations.

It was my first year, Lizzie, with Lizzie of marriage on neutral territory, knowing that we're going back out to Burundi.

And Jonathan was a much eight years younger.

Just come from Russia, I think it was. And anyway, we'll come to

all this. You're currently associated and have been for quite a while with Operation Mobilization

OM. You've launched a startup in recruitment and placement of professionals in the Middle East and

Asia. I love the creativity and the innovation that we're going to hear about,

guys. I am very excited indeed. And we're going to get to that. But let's go way back. I mean,

I think we spent most of my time that year playing volleyball, and you're one thing guys we play

volleyball with. Do you remember that? That's true. And I actually sprained my ankle really badly.

And I remember you carrying me off the field and

taking me to the pub that night in your car and just, you were right there by my side.

Oh, that's the kind of friend you need, a pub buddy. And well, it's interesting you say that,

because I remember you from, as a 22 year old you I'm not sure this will blow your

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