Antonio Turiel: "Deep Challenges: Oceans, Scarcity and Culture"
The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens
Nate Hagens
4.8 • 554 Ratings
🗓️ 5 April 2023
⏱️ 102 minutes
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Summary
On this episode, physicist Antonio Turiel joins me for a wide-ranging discussion from oceans and climate to energy and culture. Oceans are one of the most important factors regulating the Earth's climate, and yet they receive relatively little attention from the climate community. There are numerous critical risk factors to unpack regarding just the oceans alone - and still so much that we don't know. This conversation also delves into the complexity of an economic system requiring continuous growth itself embedded in an Earth system that is already hitting its limits. What are the boundaries of our energy systems and what options do we have - and not have - for the future? Is the root of the critical issue we're facing - not a technical problem - but a cultural problem?
About Antonio Turiel:
Antonio Turiel Martínez is a scientist and activist with a degree in Physics and Mathematics and a PhD in Theoretical Physics from the Autonomous University of Madrid. He works as a senior scientist at the Institute of Marine Sciences of the CSIC specializing in remote sensing, turbulence, sea surface salinity, water cycle, sea surface temperature, sea surface currents, and chlorophyll concentration. He has written more than 80 scientific articles, but he is better known as an online activist and editor of The Oil Crash blog, where he addresses sensitive issues about the depletion of conventional fossil fuel resources, such as the peak of oil and its possible implications on a world scale.
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening to The Great Simplification with Nate Higgins. |
| 0:06.2 | That's me. |
| 0:07.7 | On this show, we try to explore and simplify what's happening with energy, the economy, the environment, in our society. |
| 0:17.0 | Together with scientists, experts, and leaders, this show is about understanding the bird's eye view of how everything fits together, where we go from here and what we can do about it as a society and as individuals. |
| 0:33.4 | Amigos and amigues, bienvenitos, a great simplification. |
| 0:39.9 | Today's guest is Antonio Turiel, who is a physicist at the Institute of Marine Science in Barcelona, Spain, specializing in remote sensing, turbulent, sea surface salinity, water cycle, sea surface temperature, |
| 0:56.6 | sea surface currents, and chlorophyll concentration. He is also truly a polymath and a Renaissance |
| 1:04.9 | man. Most times when you see the word polymath, it's someone self describing themselves on |
| 1:11.5 | LinkedIn. |
| 1:12.4 | I am describing Antonio Turiel as a polymath. |
| 1:16.1 | We talk about oceans, how they are important, uh, uh, in regulating Earth's climate, yet |
| 1:23.2 | they receive very little attention as to what's going on with the ocean, temperatures, the AMAC, etc. |
| 1:29.5 | Antonio also runs a popular blog in Europe called The Oil Crash. |
| 1:36.3 | He truly is working 60 to 80 hour weeks on the human predicament, very active in Spain, on trying to get Spain |
| 1:46.9 | to do things more sustainably. This conversation covers a wide spectrum of content. |
| 1:55.0 | Antonio and I have known of each other's work for 15 years, but this was the very time, |
| 2:00.4 | first time we've ever spoken |
| 2:01.9 | together. It was a great conversation for those of you who are listening to this on the podcast |
| 2:08.1 | apps. I might suggest that you watch this on YouTube where there are full captions available |
| 2:14.4 | because Antonio, even though it's his third language, he speaks very, very fast. |
| 2:19.8 | This was a great episode, and I hope to have Antonio back. |
| 2:23.3 | Please welcome Antonio Turiel. Saludos, Amigo. |
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