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A Little Bit Culty

ANTI-MLM Starter Kit: A Remix with Roberta Blevins, Emily Lynn Paulson & Douglas Brooks, ESQ

A Little Bit Culty

Sarah Edmondson & Anthony “Nippy” Ames

True Crime, Society & Culture, Education

4.62.7K Ratings

🗓️ 25 December 2023

⏱️ 78 minutes

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Summary

Today’s episode is sponsored by BetterHelp.

Just in case you’re thinking about joining that incredible business opportunity selling a life changing product…don’t give them your credit card info until you’ve listened to this A Little Bit Culty remix. We’ve put together a special Anti-MLM 101 Starter Kit episode with some of our favorite crusaders in the war on schemes, scams, and other internet flim-flams especially for you. Our upline on this one is pretty solid.

We dug into our archives and Roberta Blevins came out swinging, so a segment from our Season 2 episode with the LuLa Rich fan fave is at the top of the batting list. She chats with us about the dangers of moldy leggings, #bossbabe energy, pricey sea cruises, other MLM tomfoolery.

After Roberta, we move on to a clip from our more recent episode with Emily Lynn Paulson, an author and mother who believes that all MLMs—which form a $180 billion industry—are cults. Spoiler alert: We violently agree.

And last but not least, we go all the way back to our Season 1 chat with Douglas Brooks, an attorney and MLM-buster with insights on what it takes to seek justice for people who’ve been screwed over. Take heart: When prosperity gospel grifters write big checks that their sneaky asses can’t cash, there can be legal consequences.

NOTES:

Roberta Blevins was a Trainer with LuLaRoe, had a team of 75 women under her, and made over $65,000 in bonuses alone. But when she came to the conclusion that it was a rigged, losing game she didn’t just leave the business: she testified in the Washington State vs. LuLaRoe Pyramid Scheme lawsuit as a witness for the state. Since leaving MLM, the fan favorite from the LuLaRich series has educated herself on the systemic structure of the business model, the psychological manipulation, the seedy underbelly and governmental ties, the cult indoctrination, and the history of Multi Level Marketing. She educates daily on TikTok, and podcasts in her "free time" on her own podcast, Life After MLM, which explores the dangers of Multi Level Marketing through the eyes of the victims and survivors. Her work has been featured on Amazon Prime Video, Vice Media, Bloomberg News, Split, and Business Insider among others. Learn more on her website or find her on Instagram @therealrobertablevins

Emily Lynn Paulson is the author of Highlight Real: Finding Honesty and Recovery Beyond the Filtered Life, and Hey, Hun: Sales, Sisterhood, Supremacy, and the Other Lies Behind Multilevel Marketing. She has given two powerful TEDx talks, both challenging the status quo of parenting, alcohol use, and feminism as we know it. Paulson has also been featured in major publications such as the Today Show, New York Times, Washington Post, The Seattle Times, Chicago Tribune, Next Question with Katie Couric, and the Tamron Hall Show. She resides in Central Oregon with her husband and their five children.

Also…Let it be known far and wide, loud and clear that…

The views and opinions expressed on A Little Bit Culty do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the podcast. Any content provided by our guests, bloggers, sponsors or authors are of their opinion and are not intended to malign any religion, group, club, organization, business individual, anyone or anything. Nobody’s mad at you, just don’t be a culty fuckwad.

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CREDITS:

Executive Producers: Sarah Edmondson & Anthony Ames

Production Partner: Citizens of Sound

Producer: Will Retherford

Co-Creator & Writer: Jess Tardy

Theme Song: “Cultivated” by Jon Bryant co-written with Nygel Asselin

Transcript

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0:00.0

This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be considered legal, medical, or mental health advice. The views and opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the podcast and are not intended to malign any religion group club organization business

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individual anyone or anything.

0:17.0

I'm Sarah Edmondson and I'm Anthony air quotes nippy Ames and this is a little bit

0:30.5

guilty a podcast about what happens when things that seem like a great thing at first go bad.

0:35.6

Every week we chat with survivors, experts, and whistleblowers for real cult stories told directly by the people who live through them.

0:42.6

Because we want you to learn a few things we've had to learn the hard way.

0:46.1

Like if you think you're too smart to get sucked into something culty,

0:49.7

you're already prime recruitment material.

0:52.2

You might even already be in a cold.

0:54.0

Oops, you better keep listening to find out.

0:56.6

Welcome to season depths of the ocean

1:05.0

hanging on to win my love.

1:09.0

If I let go of it all I could leave, but I know. Hey everyone it's another remix by request you guys like this one is a sort of not sort of it is an anti-MLM

1:26.0

101 starter kit with some of our favorite MLM busters.

1:30.0

We're going to start with Robert Obloveds who you may know as a fan fave from the Amazon Prime series

1:34.9

Lula Rich, or from her rockin' Goodtime podcast, Life After MLM,

1:39.7

where she explores the dangers of multi-level marketing through the eyes of the victims and

1:44.0

survivors.

1:45.0

She's got some serious street cred in the anti-MLM domain for sure.

1:49.6

As a trainer with Lula Rowe, Roberta had a team of 75 women under her and made over $65,000 in bonuses alone.

1:56.7

When she came to the conclusion that it was a rigged losing game, she didn't just leave the business.

2:01.2

She testified in the Washington State versus

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