Anthropic is not just a massive model builder, it's a massive product builder as well,

with products like Claude and Co-work that have taken off like crazy over the past few months.

And Claude Code came out of a place that few of us know much about called Anthropic Labs.

And Anthropic Labs is a organization within Anthropic that is working on building the next level of frontier products with AI at the center.

And so today we are lucky to hear from the person running that lab, Mike Krieger, who is the co-founder of Instagram and now the lead of Anthropic Labs at Anthropic. We're going to welcome him

on stage along with Lauren Good of Wired, who will join me as a co-interview. Mike and Lauren, let's

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information, visit pwc.com. All right. All right, Mike. So chill time's in Anthropic Land.

Nothing going on.

Slow week.

Slow week.

You want to start, Lauren?

Yeah.

First of all, I mean, we want to talk about what you're working on at labs and explain your

role to folks.

But I want to ask you first, how close are you right now to the situation with the White House? Less than in my CPO role. So I transitioned about like five months ago into this labs role. I think in the CPR role, I think would have been deep in it. Now I'm more, you know, obviously, you know, we want to restore it. And as a like product person, I want to make sure that that gets access. But less close to it than in that sort of C-level role that I had before. OK. Alex, you have a follow-up? Oh, yeah. I have like eight follow-ups. Definitely. Well, there was a guy named Ben on X who said, I will mail Anthropic and original copy of my long-form birth certificate if they will enable Fable for me again. I sound like those lunatics who are obsessed with Fero now. Will you take Ben's long form? I don't know that we'll take his long form, but it has been interesting. Fable was only available for a few days, but I've definitely, every time I've tweeted since then, they've not read whatever I was tweeting,

and they've mostly been, like, Bring Back Fable, which, like, in Instagram, we got rid of Gotham. Do you ever Gotham, the filter? This was like, and then for the rest, like, the next eight years, all I heard was bring back Gotham. So it struck an Earth, Fable will come back before Gotham did. but yeah, it's clearly the folks that have gotten to use it and started incorporating it.

It's actually really interesting.

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