You can't. I think the self worth comes from something you create.

What you create creates you.

What I promise to the world creates that sense of pride.

The pride of the fleets, the bright swinging frogmen of the UTT.

Hey folks, this is Mark Devine.

Welcome back to the interview with mine podcast.

Superstoke to have you here. I'm up in... Vine, welcome back to the Enfield Mine Podcast.

Super stoked to have you here.

I'm up in Lake Tahoe at Squaw Valley

with the Spartan World Champion,

and I've been on a like a podcasting frenzy.

I know my guest here, Anthony Trucks's has also been doing that. It's been really

really cool. Without much ado I'm not going to give any more intro to Anthony but

except to say I'm super excited to meet someone who has gone through such like trauma and hardship and yet continues to come out on top and now is turning his attention to really helping other people.

Deal with the shit and the shifts that happen in their life.

Anthony is a former NFL player, a world-class athlete and coach,

but it hasn't been an easy road has it buddy.

Oh man no I don't I to be honest I don't want it to be I think now and now in retrospect right

we're like all those all that shit that happened we're like bringing on we're glad that it

happened that sure doesn't feel that way when we're going through it. Oh no and then

in a moment of it nobody enjoys pain but like it's a great deal of

appreciation for the crazy yeah because now I don't have things that I won't do like

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