Hello, my name is David Ronsman and this is Talking Politics.

Here we are again, again, sitting around this table after Helen No Sleep, Vimba No Sleep,

Glenn Huffler, me No Sleep.

The catch phrase for this podcast when we started was Corbin Exclamation Mark, Brexit Exclamation

Mark, Trump Exclamation Mark.

I was thinking recently we should update that and it turns out we don't need to update

that.

Corbin Brexit Trump, that's our world.

So we're going to try and make sense of this.

I partly tried to sleep and couldn't sleep because I was thinking of all the things that

I've said in the last two years or written that now look a bit foolish about the Labour

Party, including the one I think I'm most ashamed of in which I wrote that the Labour Party

was suffering death by enthusiasm, which doesn't look right now.

Glenn, that's nodding at me.

Well, Glenn, I think the Five Year Fixed Unpornment Act is still important.

I agree.

Something, I think, we were collectively wrong about, but this is not, doesn't need a massive

sort of self-fledged relation because it looks like everyone missed this or almost everyone

missed this.

So we did a podcast maybe a month ago about UKIP, we call the meaning of UKIP.

And I said on that, and I think it was a general view, that it looks like one of UKIP's

roles was to turn Labour voters into Tory voters.

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