This is the Beautiful Writers' podcast. I'm Linda Siebertson, and I'm really happy to be back. I've missed you guys. I took a few months off to focus on several books that have been clamoring for my attention. Maybe you know the feeling. And I've also been shoveling mud over at the barn to keep our horses from sliding away

as record drought has morphed into record rains here in Los Angeles seemingly nonstop since December.

But I am renewed and energized.

The sun is out.

Our anti-mud system is in.

And two of my all-time favorite women in publishing are here to play with us.

You know her from her appearance with us last August and a few other little things like Oprah's Book Club pick

and a seat at number one atop the New York Times bestseller list for her memoir, Love Warrior.

Yeah, yeah, blah, blah, blah.

Yes, Glennon Doyle Melton is back,

this time in the co-host chair. How lucky are we? She's going to give us heart-centered updates on her dizzying career, her divorce, and her recent engagement to soccer legend Abby Wambach.

Joining us is Anne Lamont.

Author of the New York Times bestsellers, Help Thanks Wow, Small Victories, Stitches,

Some Assembly Required, Grace Eventually, Plan B, Traveling Mercies, Bird by Bird, and Operating

Instructions. Oh, and several novels like

Imperfect Birds and Rosie. People magazine describes this writer, speaker, teacher, and progressive

political activist as beloved by legions for her smart, irreverent take on the human condition.

Anne happens to be one of Glennon's biggest idols

when it comes to writing in sobriety and faith and charity. And I thought the two would be a perfect

pairing, which is sort of faded really if you think about it, because they're both currently

beautifying the pages of spirituality and health magazine this month. We lucked out when Anne agreed

to give us one of the first interviews for her new book,

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