Hello and welcome to Run Pod. Now this is where runners unite. We all come together because we share

the mutual love for the feel good of running. I mean, all right, okay, sometimes when you are running,

you might question why you were out there doing it. It might be raining and you don't think

it sounds much fun or you might be raining and you don't think it sounds much

fun or you might be facing a huge hill directly in front of you and it can seem like an

obstacle too big to take on. However, once you've done it, you feel great and you remember why

you love it. You love the way running makes you feel. So today on Run Pod, I'm joined by a friend,

someone I've known for years back to the days when I worked on GMTV. I worked on this bit

called Entertainment Today, which was like the Friday showbiz hour. And this guest hosted the GMTV

kind of children's section. She is currently though, she's moved on from the kids stuff and she's

now the dating expert on celebsco dating. She is a number one bestselling author. She is currently, though, she's moved on from the kids' stuff and she's now the dating

expert on celebs go dating. She is a number one bestselling author. She's a qualified counselor.

She's a life coach. She's a fellow podcaster. She is Anna Williamson. Hello.

Oh, Jen. That is probably the nicest introduction I've ever had. Thanks, mate. How are you?

No, really, really good. How are you doing? Yeah, not bad, you know, not bad. And actually, it's funny. When I think about running, I'm not to say this. I do think of you because I always remember you and Ben Shepard, you were saying

about the GMTV days, you and Ben Shepard, well, I know Ben in particular, when you used to do

entertainment today, which by it was the best part of GMTV. That was like the holy grail of

tele shows to be on. Like you got to interview all the celebs and everything. I know it was jammy. It was totally jammy. Oh, you were so good at it as well. But then Ben used to run, I always remember he,

he used to run home, didn't he, to Richmond? Yeah, so he used to run to Richmond and I used to

run to Wimbledon where I lived. Yeah. And I remember looking at the pair of you and like there

was the fact. There were no more sexy fitter presenters in the whole of ITV building than you and Ben.

And you both used to, I mean, the epitome of fitness because I used to finish my kid's show and go into Studio 6, which listeners was basically the kind of unofficial staff canteen.

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