There are some topics that are strictly off limits the dinner table.

Politics, religion, which Canadian football team is the best and why it is obviously this

is casual Rough Riders, one of two teams in a small football league named The Rough Riders.

Oh wait, that's just my dinner table.

So why is it that some of our hardest truths are off the table for discussion?

I think that you're scared your kid is getting behind in school and don't know how to help.

Or that your drinking might be getting out of control, or that your mom's memory seems to be slipping.

Or you're worried about your relationship that it might be falling apart when the kids leave.

Or that you might be losing the business or sicker than you let on.

Our culture seems convinced that going off script is unbecoming.

Instead, we are rewarded for being buttoned up, perfect, or at least appearing to be,

and never ever no matter what admitting weakness.

But don't we need each other, especially when facing the most difficult moments?

What do we lose when we don't talk about the hard things?

And what might we gain if we do?

I'm Kate Boller and this is Everything Happens.

Today, I'm speaking with someone who leans into every hard conversation, no matter how difficult the topic.

Anna Sale is a journalist, author, an interviewer on her award-winning podcast, Death Sex and Money.

And she wrote a gorgeous book I love. It's called Let's Talk About Hard Things.

Anna, my soulmate, I've only just met.

Hello, I'm so glad we're doing this!

I'm so glad to be doing this with you. I really like I have been such a fan and admirer of the way that you,

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