Hello, everyone, and welcome to police off the cuff for real crime stories.

I'm your host, retired NYPD, Sergeant Bill Cannon, a 27-year veteran of the NYPD.

I'd like to welcome everyone this afternoon and also wish everyone who celebrates a happy,

joyous and friendly and warm Thanksgiving.

I know some of our friends across the pond don't celebrate Thanksgiving.

It's sort of an American holiday.

But for all you Americans, have a wonderful Thanksgiving.

We're thinking about you and thinking about you being with your friends,

family, and loved ones. And it's always a warm holiday. It's one of my favorite eating holidays.

I'll put it that way. You know, we all gain a few pounds over Thanksgiving.

Anyway, this case of Anna Kepner, it's still, you know, it's not like it's a huge mystery.

I think the FBI knows fully what occurred here.

And the only thing that is a perhaps not even a mystery, but confounding to us and to the

public is why has there not been an arrest yet on?

They're calling this case.

They officially called it a homicide yesterday, right?

So this young girl, she didn't die accidentally.

They're calling this a homicide.

And in vernacular, in law enforcement vernacular,

homicide simply means death caused by another. And it can be, most of the time, of course,

it is criminal, but it also could be non-criminal. And I give you an example of that.

When the police use restraint on someone and they use too much pressure, say, on the person's back and the person's not able to expand their chest and breathe, that's something called restraint

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