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So this really dramatically long journey ends up connecting all of these different communities

that gray whales swim through.

And as I mentioned, that's what I find really quite interesting about gray whales

is that they serve almost as this sort of connecting piece

between places and people and histories

that we might think of as very distance and separate from each other, but actually are entangled

in really interesting ways.

You're listening to Green Dreamer, and I'm your host, Kamea Shane.

Today we are speaking with Anna Gwco, a PhD candidate and Gates Cambridge scholar

in the Department of Geography at the University of Cambridge.

Her doctoral work focuses on histories, narratives, and environmental justice issues

surrounding the migration and conservation of gray whales along the North American

Pacific coast.

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