Hey, this is just a gentle reminder that registration into our last live cohort of Alchemize closes this week.

So if you're curious to engage in a lot of the topics we explore on the podcast in more embodied and experimental ways,

we welcome you to join us today in our 12-week program of daily audio-guided imagination and earth-centered

practices. To learn more, you can head to greendreamer.com slash alchemize. And I truly believe,

and I'm so hopeful that that Alchemize is one of those resources, the reconstruction. If not this system, what are the natural

systems that we are to return to? And what can we reinvent? What can we co-create or recreate or

transmute together this time.

Hey, it's Kamea, and today I wanted to share a bonus behind-the-scenes conversation between myself,

Anisa Sima Hawley, who is Green Dreamers researcher and editor, and Gables Torres, a contributor and our

program advisor for Alchemize, which, if you haven't heard yet,

is our new eight-week program of daily imagination and creative practices, now open for enrollment

until January 12th. In this off-the-cuff conversation, we explore the roles of imagination,

escapism, dissociation, and discomfort when it comes to stretching our

alternative possibilities. Enjoy.

Most people who are familiar with what we've been working on in terms of alchemize might

be aware that part of my intention with it was just my curiosity with what it would be like to move

beyond what we usually do for the podcast, which is more so intellectualizing and philosophizing

a lot of the issues and topics that we explore, like making sense of everything through the

mode of thinking. And so I was

curious, like, what might we know about the differences or the possibilities that come from

a more practiced or embodied or interactive mode of engaging with content?

The first thing that came to mind is that there are certain experience that we can't reason

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