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So this really dramatically long journey ends up connecting all of these different communities

that gray whales swim through.

And as I mentioned, that's what I find really quite interesting about gray whales,

is that they serve almost as this sort of connecting piece between places and people and histories

that we might think of as very distance and separate from each other but actually are

entangled in really interesting ways.

You're listening to Green Dreamer and I'm your host, Kamea Shane.

Today we are speaking with Anna Gwasco,

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