Welcome to The Hour Head House interview.

I'm Jasmine Singer.

I'm Marianne Sullivan.

And we're so excited to have our good friends John Yunker and Midge Raymond here today again to talk about one of our favorite subjects, which is writing for animals.

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All right, Marian, why don't you do the honors?

Yes, I would be thrilled to because this is not our first rodeo.

I guess I shouldn't use that expression with Midge and John.

I'm so happy to have them back because it's always such an interesting conversation.

And Mitch Raymond and John Juncker are the co-authors of the Mystery Devil's Island and the nonfiction book Animal Rights.

And the co-founders of Ashland Creek Press, which is a vegan publisher devoted to animal and environmental literature,

Mitch is also the author of the novel, Sloriana, and Myles Continent, the short story collection

for Getting English. And John is the author of The Tourist Trail and Where Oceans Hide

They're Dead. All really great books. Welcome to both of you. Thank you. Thank you so much.

I love having you guys on. You're just,

you've been with us for so long. It genuinely just feels like, you know, ma'am, like you're a

cousins, but like the cousins you like. So that's such an impressive, like, bio. How do it, does it

feel weird to you to hear your bio?

I'm just curious.

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