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0:11.0 | Hello George Bernard Shaw made the observation that in heaven an angel is nobody in particular |
0:16.3 | Unquote, but there's nothing commonplace about this description of angels from the book of Ezekiel |
0:21.2 | Quote they had the likeness of a man and everyone had four faces and everyone had four wings and their feet was straight |
0:27.9 | Feet and the soul of their feet was like the soul of a calf's foot |
0:31.0 | And they sparkled like the color of burnished brass as for the likeness of their faces |
0:35.8 | They had four the face of a man and the face of a lion on the right side and they four had the face of an ox on the left side |
0:43.4 | They four also had the face of an eagle with angels like that is easy to see why they've caused so much controversy over the centuries |
0:50.1 | What part of angels played in Western religion and in Western thought? |
0:54.0 | How did they get their hellos and their wings and how did the medieval philosophers use them to explain the world? |
1:00.4 | With me to discuss angels his value Reese Renaissance scholar from the School of Economic Science |
1:05.3 | Martin Palmer theologian and director of the International Consultancy on Religion, Education and Culture and John Hall |
1:11.1 | Downing Professor of Philosophy. I'd sent Andrew University |
1:14.3 | Martin Palmer can we start with the etymology of the word and tell us where it came from? |
1:19.5 | Well, it's the Greek word |
1:21.5 | Anglos which means messenger and it's the translation of the Hebrew term meaning precisely that the messenger of God and in fact |
1:29.2 | often in the in the Torah in the Hebrew Bible what we call the Old Testament |
1:34.1 | The angels are described as the angel of the Lord in the same way that you might say the word of the Lord or the message of the Lord |
1:41.0 | It's giving a sort of pedigree to what they're saying and saying listen to this. It's worthwhile. It's trustable |
1:48.2 | What's their role in books like Ezekiel and Isaiah and in earlier books in the Bible? |
1:52.8 | Well, it changes actually. It's quite interesting the earliest accounts of of angels if you take them from judges for instance or some of the earliest |
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