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Change Agents with Andy Stumpf

Andy Stumpf and Green Beret Nate Boyer on Kaepernick, Media Lies, and a Divided America

Change Agents with Andy Stumpf

IRONCLAD

Society & Culture

4.9648 Ratings

🗓️ 26 November 2025

⏱️ 83 minutes

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Summary

On today’s episode, Green Beret veteran, former NFL player, and filmmaker Nate Boyer sits down with Andy Stumpf to tackle America’s growing polarization, the role of media in shaping public perception, and the importance of finding common ground in divisive times. They also explore Nate’s work with veterans and athletes through his organization MVP, and his unique involvement with Colin Kaepernick’s national anthem protest.  Change Agents is an IRONCLAD Original Sponsors:  Firecracker Farm  Use code IRONCLAD to get 15% off your first order at https://firecracker.farm/ TacPack  Visit http://www.TacPack.com  and use code IRONCLAD at checkout to get a free $70 tactical gift   Mizzen and Main Black Friday Deal: Score 25% off at Mizzen & Main with code IRONCLAD20!  DeleteMe Go to https://www.joindeleteme.com/IRONCLAD and use coupon code IRONCLAD, or  scan the QR code Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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My feelings were just, well, look, I mean, I think the only thing that makes logistical sense is taken a knee.

0:41.3

And to me, you know, it's not a disrespectful gesture.

0:45.3

People take a knee to pray, propose to their future spouse, you know, and when a player on the field is hurt.

0:50.3

The other players take a knee at a respect until he's, you know, either walks off,

0:55.6

carted off, carried off the field.

1:05.1

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to change agents in Ironclad original, presented by

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Firecracker Farm. Today, we're going to be

1:11.9

talking about the division in the United States of America. My guest to do so is Nate Boyer.

1:19.2

Nate is a former Green Beret who served in multiple tours in both Iraq and Afghanistan, and then

1:23.9

decided to leave military service and go to the University of Texas, where he walked on to the football team, having never played organized football before, where he would become a first-team academic All-Big 12 conference member playing Long Snapper.

1:38.5

He went undrafted into the NFL, but signed with the Seattle Seahawks where he played during the 2015 preseason.

1:44.5

He is the co-founder of the organization merging vets and players, also known as MVP,

1:48.8

which helps veterans and athletes transition beyond their uniform.

1:52.2

He's also a filmmaker and entrepreneur and the co-founder of the premium meat company,

1:57.2

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1:58.1

Let's get into the show.

2:07.4

Thank you. company eight primal. Let's get into the show. This is an interesting one man.

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