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The Bulwark Podcast

Andrew Weissmann: Is Trump Going To Raid Fort Knox Next?

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

News, Politics, Society & Culture, News Commentary

4.6 • 11.6K Ratings

🗓️ 15 May 2026

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

If the IRS goes ahead and gives in to Donald Trump's demands for a MAGA slush fund, it would be outright theft of the public's money and corruption on a scale that we've never even contemplated in this country. What would stop him from plundering even more from the American people? Plus, Kash's ghoulish snorkel at Pearl Harbor, the Supreme Court's VRA ruling gave permission to practice discrimination, MAGA loves the racism and sexism of the 1950s, and the penile implant expert managing the Hantavirus outbreak. And in his new book, Weissmann explores whether the lies of politicians and political candidates can be criminalized.

Andrew Weissmann joins Tim Miller for the weekend pod.

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome with the Bullard podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. Couldn't be more delighted to welcome back to the show.

0:17.5

Professor of Practice of NYU Law School. He served as lead counsel in Bob Mueller's investigation in the 2016 election. He's also been general counsel for the FBI. He's on MS Now with me quite often. He's a frequent guest on our own illegal news podcast with Sarah Longwell. Sarah's stolen him from me. And now he's the author of a new book, Liars Kingdom, How to Stop Trump's Deceit and Save America,

0:38.3

which will be released on Tuesday. Go pre-order it right now. Pause the podcast. Go pre-order it.

0:43.7

And we're going to give you a good show. It's me and Andrew Weissman. How you doing, Andrew?

0:47.6

It is really nice to see you. I mean, you're totally right. I actually, I met you before Sarah.

0:53.9

You've been Thier. I met you before Sarah. You've been themed. You know, I think you've been scooped. But it's my loss. We'll see. The illegal news pond is go check it out. They're doing a great job. I listened to this last week's. I got about 30 minutes in before dozing off. So I thought that was pretty good. You know, I was kind of, I have a lot happening in my life, you know. So it's kind of hard to stay locked in. My good friends say, you know, I listen to you on your podcast because I do this podcast with my record. I'm like, oh, that's great. They go, yeah, when I can't get to sleep, it's really, really nice to listen to. Well, that won't be this podcast because we have a lot of exciting news to discuss. And at the very end, I get the sense that you're a little, are you a little bit of a hypochondriac? Are you a little, no, not really. No, I'm not. That's surprising. Why do you say that

1:45.2

well I don't know

1:46.7

I just give off a hypochondriac energy

1:49.1

you know I have a lot of phobias

1:52.1

and I have a lot of I have a lot of issues

1:54.6

but I have somehow managed to not have that one

1:58.4

all right well we'll learn a little bit more

2:00.6

we'll go a little bit deeper on that in go a little deeper on that in the end. Wait, are you? You do not see me. No, I'm not. I'm not at all. No, the opposite. No, Sarah gets mad at me for not watching my hands enough. But it might be, it might be something we'll need to do more. That's a little teaser for the very end of the show. there'll be some female implant discussion. We'll just stick around for the end. But first we have some serious,

2:20.5

I'm like really actually that's a little teaser for the very end of the show. There'll be some penile implant discussion. We'll just stick around for the end. But first we

2:19.8

have some serious. I'm like really actually genuinely

2:22.3

genuinely fucking pissed about this story that I want to start with you on.

2:27.6

This is ABC News last night. Reports that Trump is

2:30.9

poised to drop his $10 billion lawsuit against the IRS.

2:35.5

You know, he had this emotional distress about his tax returns being leaked.

2:38.6

Every other presidential candidate voluntarily released their tax returns.

2:41.8

His got leaked, and this caused him such emotional distress that he felt like he deserved

2:45.6

10 billion of our dollars, taxpayer dollars.

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