Hello and welcome to the scriptures a real podcast. This is the podcast where we talk about elements of the scriptures that have become real to us because that helps us draw more power from the scriptures and apply them more to our

lives and we surely need that today. I'm your host, Kerry Mealstein, and I'm so happy to have

back with us one of the very first guests that we had, who is so fantastic in so many ways in such

a dear friend, my friend Andrew Skinner, who was the department chair of ancient scripture

back when I was teaching adjunct. And then the dean, he was just exiting as dean. Actually,

I was his last hiring interview as he was exiting of dean of our college. And then he went over to

head the Maxwell Institute.

And all of that's great. But what's more important is what a fantastic person and friend he is.

I always loved, and I hope I usually call you Andy. I don't know if that's all right on the on here.

Yeah, but I've always loved Andy, but we had the chance to teach together in Jerusalem.

And I knew he was a great scholar and a great administrator and writer.

He's a very prolific writer.

But that's when I learned what a great person and teacher he is.

And I learned, I thought I knew a lot about the area and the history,

and I learned how much I didn't, well, I didn't know then. I know more now because I was with

him. But I also learned how to be a gentleman while you're a scholar and a good, kind friend.

So welcome, Andy. Good to have you back with us. Well, thank you,

Carrie. It is really a pleasure and a privilege at this stage of my life to be associated with

you continually. And I do remember bouncing along the dusty roads of the Holy land and talking about everything from the invasion

of the Assyrians to very personal things about how we can best help our children. And that's

been a source of strength and a source of happiness for me. So thank you.

My question. You kind of just reminded me with that bouncing along dusty roads.

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