Andrew Sheets: Corporate Credit’s Surprising Resiliency
Thoughts on the Market
Morgan Stanley
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🗓️ 4 December 2020
⏱️ 3 minutes
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Corporate credit defaults have been relatively low considering the outsized shock of COVID-19. Do muted default rates also mean a muted recovery?
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Thoughts on the market. I'm Andrew Sheets, Chief Cross Asset Strategy |
| 0:06.2 | for Morgan Stanley. Along with my colleagues bringing a variety of perspectives, |
| 0:09.8 | I'll be talking about trends across the global investment landscape and how we put those ideas together. |
| 0:14.7 | It's Friday, December 4th at 2 p.m. in London. |
| 0:18.7 | One of the most unusual elements this year is that corporate default rates have been extremely low relative |
| 0:24.6 | to what is likely one of the largest drawdowns in the global economy ever |
| 0:28.9 | recorded. This lack of a reset in the corporate sector is often cited as a reason why this can't be the start of an economic cycle. |
| 0:37.0 | This argument goes that while recessions are painful, they're really important for clearing out weaker, less productive, and under-capitalized businesses, |
| 0:45.0 | making room for stronger, more dynamic ones to prosper in their wake. |
| 0:48.7 | But this year, historic levels of policy support prevented this wave of defaults and creative destruction and |
| 0:54.7 | without it a dynamic recovery is simply unlikely. Now since we at Morgan Stanley |
| 0:59.2 | do think this is the start of a new economic cycle do believe it it will be dynamic, i.e. were above consensus on global growth, |
| 1:06.1 | and do not expect a surprisingly high wave of defaults, I'd like to take this moment to explain why we don't |
| 1:11.8 | ascribe to the argument that I just mentioned, and why we don't ascribe to the argument that I just mentioned and why we |
| 1:14.4 | don't think that a clear out of more defaults is necessary. First, high default rates |
| 1:19.3 | are not the only important part of recessions. Recessions also usually involve high unemployment, low inventory levels, high savings rates, and low consumer confidence, |
| 1:28.0 | and the recoveries that follow recessions are often about all of these measures improving. |
| 1:33.0 | And this time we think the same dynamics will happen, |
| 1:35.5 | that high unemployment will fall, |
| 1:37.1 | inventory will slowly get rebuilt, |
| 1:39.1 | savings rates will get drawn down, |
| 1:40.9 | and consumers will get more confident. |
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