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Thoughts on the Market

Andrew Sheets: A Tough Road Ahead for the 60/40 Portfolio?

Thoughts on the Market

Morgan Stanley

Strategy, Alternatives, Macro, Equities, Fixed Income, Investing, Global, Business, Markets, Economics

4.81.4K Ratings

🗓️ 8 November 2019

⏱️ 4 minutes

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Summary

On this episode, Chief-Cross Asset Strategist Andrew Sheets continues his discussion on the 10-year outlook for the U.S. and Europe—and identifies the challenges ahead.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to Thoughts on the market. I'm Andrew Sheets, Chief Cross Asset

0:06.0

Strategist for Morgan Stanley. I'll log with my colleagues bringing you a variety of

0:09.2

perspectives. I'll be talking about trends across the global investment landscape and how we put those different ideas together.

0:14.8

It's Friday, November 8th at 2 p.m. in London.

0:18.2

Last week I discussed why we think the long-run return of a 60-40 portfolio in the U.S. and Europe over the next decade

0:25.1

could be just 4% a year, one of the lowest levels since the 1950s.

0:30.1

That generated more than a few questions and weren't some additional discussion of exactly how we end up with such a low number, especially given that the current market is so strong.

0:38.5

First, a low return from the bond side of a balanced portfolio looks pretty self-evident.

0:43.4

U.S. 10-year bond yields are just 1.9 percent.

0:46.4

German 10-year bond yields are minus 0.3 percent.

0:49.8

It's normal for bond returns to end up a little bit better than these headline yields would imply due to the effect of an upward sloping yield curve, but for 40% of that 60-40 portfolio, the fate of return looks sealed. Bonds are just arithmetic.

1:03.7

The swing factor, therefore, is what stocks will return

1:06.5

over the next decade.

1:07.8

Over the last 10 years, US stocks have returned 13.

1:10.6

1⁄2% per year, including dividends.

1:13.0

Over the last 50 years, they've returned 10.5% per year.

1:17.0

And yet going forward, we think the per year return will be just 5%.

1:21.0

What's going on?

1:22.0

We break the return of stocks down to three components.

1:24.8

First, how much can the earnings grow over time? Second, what kind of valuation will be applied

1:29.9

to those earnings? And third, what sort of income will the market throw off over the

1:34.0

meantime. Our return estimate is low because all three of these drivers of return

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