This city, I'm going to be a toll.

And there's nothing going on tonight.

And there's nothing going on tonight.

We can think in the city right.

Maybe you just get you can stay in time. Good afternoon Michael Malis here and let that be your welcome for the next hour.

We have a really intense episode today. We have with us Andy Pollack and Max Eden educational researcher

Andy your daughter meadow was one of the victims at the Parkland shooting and you guys wrote a book which is out now called Why Meadows died and let me tell you why I

Can strongly recommend this book because I've read it I thought that this book would be about oh my daughter met oh this is what

she was like so on and so forth there's very little about her in there and we are

also so lazy in this country and we're fed this kind of narrative. We have this idea that Columbine kind of set the blueprint, right?

That you have these kids, no one sees it coming, they're kind of loners, one day they snap, it's a tragedy in quotes, something you mentioned the book,

and then what can be done.

And this book made me extremely angry because what this book is about is this murder was

extremely preventable. You don't you try to mention the killer's name as little as possible, which is a convention I will be glad to follow.

And throughout the book, there's instances where he's like, I'm going to shoot up this school I'm obsessed with guns and then you had the administration being like well what are you going to do and it is so

jarring because there was I mean this isn't like a red flag when you have a first date and she

mentions a bad relationship with her parents.

This is someone explicitly saying I am going to shoot up this school warning administrators you have a list I

think it was a 42 different points where this could have been

prevented and I just have to ask you first of all I imagine

when people talk to you they don't even know how to talk to you because the I mean I don't

know how to talk to you because you're like living a nightmare I don't want to put words in your mouth.

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