From NBI Studios, this is Truth Injustice, a crowdsourced investigation in real time.

I'm Bob Rock.

Hello everybody and welcome back to Truth Injustice. For this week's bonus episode, I have a pretty

incredible guest that I think a lot of you are going to dislike a whole lot for about half of the

episode and then you're going to like him a whole lot for the second half. My guest today's name is

Andrew Collins. He was a former Benton Harbor Police Department here at Benton Harbor Michigan,

just about 20 minutes from where I live right now as a matter of fact, a lot of the people he's

talking about in this interview I know them personally. Andrew started off his career in the police

forces, a 21 year old kid who had the best intentions in mind. But as often happens in the police

department, different incentives and ego and things got in the way, Andrew began bending the

rules and it led to a pretty incredible and amazing story. I don't want to give it away. Andrew's

going to tell it all right here in this interview right after a break. Andrew, thank you so much

for taking the time to join me today. Yeah, absolutely. Thanks for having me.

Yeah, so now I was going to sad enough you remember this, but I'm almost certain you don't,

but we actually met very briefly. I don't know. Gosh, man, it's been five or six years ago with

the Blue Roof Church in St. Joe Michigan. Yeah, I remember Janelle and I coming there to speak,

but there's been a plethora of human beings that have been great, but I do not get well with names

and faces. Yeah, I ran up amongst all the other people afterwards after you guys had spoken.

I was trying to get an interview with you, but you were you guys were just getting ready to put

your book out and all that stuff was going on right then. But man, ever since then,

I heard you guys, there was a friend of mine told me that you guys were coming to speak,

that you and Janelle were going to be there and thought I should come and I meant it was the story

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