Andrade: The Legend Before Pele!
It Was What It Was : The Football History Podcast
The Overlap
4.9 • 666 Ratings
🗓️ 23 July 2024
⏱️ 78 minutes
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Summary
*This episode of It Was What It Was discusses issues including racism, with content that some listeners may find offensive.*
Welcome to the latest episode of The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was.
In this week’s episode, we take an in-depth look into the successful Uruguay National team of the 1920s and one their key players, Jose Leandro Andrade, who was perhaps one of the first to spark a global mania over a footballer.
Journalists Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper delve into the history of Uruguay, how they develop such an impressive team to became one of football’s first global powerhouses, winning gold in the 1924 and 1928 Olympics and lifting the first FIFA World Cup in 1930.
Jonathan and Rob also provide a detailed analysis of Uruguay’s style of play and their key players, with a particular focus on the life of Jose Leandro Andrade, his journey into football, his rise to fame and falling into poverty.
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| 0:00.0 | Thanks for listening to It Was What It Was. I'm Rob Draper, the co-host with Jonathan Wilson. |
| 0:06.2 | And just a heads up that today's episode is about a remarkable footballer, |
| 0:10.2 | but it does contain themes that would be considered racist and offensive to many people. |
| 0:15.8 | In fact, we discuss attitudes from 1924, which are racially offensive. |
| 0:21.3 | And right from the off, the first quotation is going to contain language and viewpoints |
| 0:26.7 | that people will find offensive. |
| 0:29.6 | We say that just to contextualise what follows. |
| 0:32.2 | We hope it won't put you off and we hope that you enjoy the episode about one of the most |
| 0:36.3 | important footballers ever. |
| 0:45.0 | Uruguayans are a strange combination of civilisation and barbarism. Dance in a tango, they're |
| 0:50.4 | wonderful, sublime, better than the best jigolo, But they also dance African cannibal dances that make you shiver. |
| 0:57.0 | Well, I'm Rob Draper. I'm here with Jonathan Wilson. |
| 1:01.0 | This is what it was what it was, the Football History podcast. |
| 1:04.0 | And that quote, which I think most would agree, is shockingly offensive to our ears |
| 1:09.0 | and full of racist and other unhealthy prejudices |
| 1:11.9 | is from Sidoni Gabriel Collette in La Matan newspaper in 1924. |
| 1:20.8 | Collette, as she was better known, is one of the great French writers of the 20th century. |
| 1:25.3 | You may know her because she was the subject of Hollywood |
| 1:27.8 | film and played by Kira Knightley a few years ago. And amazingly, I think, to our listeners, |
| 1:34.3 | she would have been regarded as a very progressive darling of left bank bohemian intellectuals in Paris. |
| 1:40.0 | So she would have considered herself at the forefront of sort of advancement in progressive |
| 1:46.4 | politics. And yet that just sounds really full of awful prejudices and awful ideas to our |
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