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I'm not sure this guest needs much of an introduction. Everybody I think everybody

knows what Anderson Cooper is, but just in case you don't. He owes two hours a night

on CNN. He's written a bunch of books, including a memoir and also a book about his relationship

with his mother, Gloria Vanderbilt. You may also have heard of. We're going to talk about

their relationship a lot in this interview because she's fascinating. And he does incredible

stories on 60 minutes. Speaking of which, several years ago, he was assigned to do a story

on 60 minutes about meditation. And it was a great story. I was so excited to see that

60 minutes was covering meditation. And Anderson ended up embracing the practice for himself

and getting pretty into it. And in fact, he's going to be co-hosting an event in New York

City called Mindfulness in America put on by the folks who do wisdom 2.0, which is a

in fact, the guy organizes wisdom 2.0. Soren Gordhumber is a previous guest on this podcast.

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