And, This Is Where MAGA Got Their Playbook With Congressman Jim Clyburn
This is Gavin Newsom
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🗓️ 19 February 2026
⏱️ 58 minutes
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Summary
Congressman Jim Clyburn joins the podcast to reflect on the legacy of Jesse Jackson, his deep friendship with John Lewis, and how Democrats can speak to Black voters. Plus, he describes how today’s battles over voter ID laws and DEI are shaped by the battles fought during Reconstruction and the Jim Crow Era.
00:00: Intro
3:08 The Legacy of Jesse Jackson
4:55 Civil Disobedience, Faith and How Clyburn Met His Wife
12:48 The Phone Call That Changed The 1960 Election
16:21 Jim Clyburn And John Lewis’s Special Relationship
23:29 I Didn’t Get Enough Votes
29:08 “You Only Focus On Black People”
35:38 The Reconstruction To Jim Crow Pipeline
41:44 Voter ID & Where MAGA Got Their Playbook
47:52 The First Amendment, Democracy & The Attack on DEI
54:15 - How The Democrats Regain Black Voters
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The First Eight: A Personal History of the Pioneering Black Congressmen Who Shaped a Nation by Jim Clyburn available here:https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/jim-clyburn/the-first-eight/9780316572743/
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| 0:00.0 | I believe we got a job to preserve democracy, |
| 0:03.0 | but I think we got to take it a little step further. |
| 0:07.0 | But to other people in this country are saying the country is on the wrong track. |
| 0:10.0 | So we've got to show that we will put this country back on track, |
| 0:14.0 | making America's greatness accessible and affordable for all. |
| 0:19.0 | So I just sat down with Congressman Jim Clyburn on the same day that we learned of |
| 0:23.0 | Jesse Jackson's passing. |
| 0:24.5 | We talk about Jesse Jackson, John Lewis, talk about the history of the civil rights struggle, |
| 0:29.0 | but also the history of reconstruction and whether or not we are entering into phase two |
| 0:35.1 | of Jim Pro. |
| 0:38.0 | This is Gavin Newsom. |
| 0:40.4 | And this is Congressman Jim Kleber. |
| 0:45.2 | This is an I-Heart podcast, Guaranteed Human. |
| 0:50.2 | Congressman, it's a pleasure to have you here, particularly here in Sacramento and Ronald Reagan's old mansion, |
| 0:55.0 | Earl Warren's old mansion. |
| 0:57.0 | Yeah, well, Earl Warren is one of my favorites, as you can imagine. |
| 1:01.0 | I have been the governor of California. |
| 1:05.0 | And the interesting thing, when I first started studying politics, |
| 1:08.0 | I remember studying a little bit about Earl Warren |
| 1:11.3 | and happened to have had both the Democrat and Republican nominations. |
| 1:15.8 | That made it kind of interesting. |
| 1:17.5 | Growing up in a household, my parents were Republicans. |
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