And, This Is What The Founding Fathers Were Worried About With Jon Meacham
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🗓️ 13 February 2026
⏱️ 68 minutes
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Presidential historian and author Jon Meacham shares how the Founding Fathers knew that a President like Trump was always a possibility and the best ways to celebrate America's 250th birthday. Plus they discuss the Super Bowl, Biden's legacy and whether the midterms might be our last election.
00:00 Intro
0:30 The Super Bowl IS Political
5:51 Democracy Has Always Been Messy
8:22 What Meacham Got Wrong About Trump's Rise To Power
12:26 Headlines vs. Historical Fact
15:26 Republicans Wouldn't Elect Their Own Party
19:43 Is Today's Political Climate Unprecedented
26:27 Could Trump Be Right About Our Failing Institutions?
34:00 Looking Back On 250 Years of American Struggle
39:40 This Administration Is Rewriting American History In Real Time
45:40 Are We The People Doing Enough To Resist?
53:10 Biden's Legacy
57:07 Will Democracy Survive The Midterms?
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| 0:00.0 | It's the war of all against all. |
| 0:01.6 | It's this constant reality show, but his reality show is our reality. |
| 0:06.0 | People fought at Lexington Concord and at Yorktown so that reason and deliberation would at least have a chance against force and accident. |
| 0:14.0 | Despair is a sin. |
| 0:16.0 | Cynicism is a sin. |
| 0:18.0 | Democracy has to deliver or democracy doesn't survive. This is Gavin Newsom. |
| 0:26.2 | And this is John Meacham. |
| 0:30.5 | This is an I-Heart podcast, guaranteed human. |
| 0:35.3 | John Meacham, thank you for joining us today on the podcast. |
| 0:39.1 | This weekend seemed to me a perfect distillation of our political life. |
| 0:46.7 | You had the Super Bowl halftime show, Bad Bunny. |
| 0:50.3 | We then had this alternative programming with Kid Rock, Turning Point, USA. |
| 0:55.4 | And it's interesting, I was turning on. |
| 0:57.3 | I get my blog every morning of headlines. |
| 1:00.7 | And I thought, just read these headlines and get your reflection. |
| 1:03.6 | It says how the NFL lost America at halftime. |
| 1:07.2 | Next headline, it's exactly why. |
| 1:09.3 | Halftime shows exactly what the left wants America to look like. |
| 1:14.2 | The anti-American Super Bowl halftime show should be a wake-up call to real Americans. |
| 1:20.5 | Those are just some of the headlines this morning reflecting on Sunday's events. |
| 1:27.4 | How do those events shape your thinking about the world |
| 1:30.1 | we're living in at this moment? And how should we look at them through the prism of so much of the |
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