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The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

And the Next President of Heritage Is … | Live From Grand Rapids

The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Dispatch

Politics, News

4.66.3K Ratings

🗓️ 6 November 2025

⏱️ 68 minutes

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The Remnant took the show on the road! Joined by a cast of characters that would make P.T. Barnum's circus monkeys look like a pack of well-trained poodles, Jonah Goldberg and his tomfoolerous crew (Kevin D. Williamson, former Rep. Peter Meijer) contest bitterly over tariffs, pontificate on unilateral hypocrisy, and speculate about the post-Trump world. Shownotes:—The Remnant with Yuval Levin—Ezra Klein on the Democratic future—Babylon Bee: “Trump Vows To Nationalize As Many Private Companies As It Takes To Defeat Socialism” The Remnant is a production of ⁠The Dispatch⁠, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a non-partisan, conservative perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including access to all of Jonah’s G-File newsletters—⁠click here⁠. If you’d like to remove all ads from your podcast experience, consider becoming a premium Dispatch member ⁠by clicking here⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Greetings to your listeners. This is Jonah Goldberg, host of the Remnant Podcast, brought to you by the Dispatch and Dispatch Media.

0:05.1

I am talking to you back from home in Washington, D.C. I literally just got home after walking the dogs because they insisted I do that first.

0:13.3

On Wednesday night, last night in Grand Rapids, we had a really fun event with Peter Meyer at the Acton Institute.

0:23.4

I guess I didn't, I don't recall, but I guess I didn't do a proper introduction last night. Anyway, Victoria asked me to do one here, so that's what I am doing.

0:30.5

It was me, Kevin Williamson and Peter Meyer. I'll have some editorial comments at the end,

0:35.8

but let's just jump right into it.

0:51.9

Ladies and gentlemen, can I please have your attention?

0:56.0

Can you digger?

0:59.0

We're not going to do...

1:05.0

First of all, I guess we should start paying some respects to Dick Cheney.

1:09.0

We found out he passed away today. And we don't need to dwell on it, but I thought we should address it. Do you have any thoughts about...

1:19.6

I mean, a Titan, for sure. His interpretation of the executive branch powers do not align necessarily with my interpretation of the executive branch powers.

1:30.8

But Dick Cheney also means strong West Michigan connection, you know, served on the board of the Gerald R. Ford Foundation was chief of staff to President Ford.

1:40.9

And, you know, just that cabinet, insane.

1:45.9

As a kid going to Ford Foundation meetings,

1:48.4

it was like, oh, there's Alan Greenspan,

1:50.6

you know, there's a secretary of treasury,

1:52.5

there's the secretary of defense,

1:53.9

this is during George W. Bush's term,

1:57.2

you know, there's the vice president.

1:59.2

I mean, just somebody who made just an incredible mark. Yeah, Titan. Yeah, so, Kevin, you know, there's the vice president. I mean, just somebody who made just an incredible

2:00.9

mark. Yeah, Titan. Yeah, so Kevin, it's funny. It'll be out on tomorrow's episode of the

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