I'm Dr Becky and this is good inside.

So assuming you're not driving a car right now,

I'm going to ask you to close your eyes as we start this.

And remember what you were like at age 13. You might have been in eighth grade, probably the

last year of middle school. Who was your best friend? What song did you play 10,000 times? And where did you go to feel free?

I used to not be able to be dropped off like I had to be like monitored but being

dropped off and like left there with like my own money and like being able to just walk around and have with Brown-Cute set so I know like

what to do and what not to do.

That feeling of freedom I had at 13 when I got dropped off with my friends at a shopping

mall to walk around for hours unshaperoned isn't that far off from the three young women whose lives were being chronicled for a peace in the New York Times called Being 13.

Joining me is the former 13 now 14 year old named London.

Her mom, Dakeda, and journalist Jessica Bennett

for a conversation about what being 13 feels like now.

We'll be back right after this.

Is Santa real?

Who brings all these presents?

Why does Santa bring my friend so many more presents than Santa brings me?

Hey, do you believe in Santa?

Here's something I know about all of us.

We don't want to lie to our kids.

And we want our kid to be in on fun and magic. So how do we talk to our kids about

Santa or other things in this category like the Tooth Fairy. I break this all down

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