She's made up her mind to live pretty smart.

Learned to budget responsibly right from the start.

She spends a little less and puts more into savings,

keeps her blood pressure low and credits go raising.

She's gotten dead right out of her life.

She tracks her cash for on a spreadsheet at night.

Boring money moves make kind of lame songs, but they sound pretty sweet to your wallet.

BNC Bank, brilliantly boring since 1865. Hi there, I'm Lale Aricoglu, and this is a very special episode of women who travel.

As September winds up and the year comes to a close, we are going on hiatus.

So what better guests to have on than my very dear friend and a familiar name and voice to any long-time listener.

It's Meredith Carey, who was my co-host for many years on this podcast and started it with me in 2017.

I've spent the last three years hosting this podcast by myself, and it has grown exponentially.

We've had so many astonishing guests with astonishing stories to tell.

We've had everyone from Tracy Alice Ross to Brooke Shields and so many more inspiring travellers in between.

But it all began just me and Meredith in a makeshift studio in the World Trade Centre

before Condé Ness even had a podcast department.

I can't quite describe how surreal it is to have you back in the studio, Mayor.

It feels so wild and also like we just recorded the last episode that I was with you, like yesterday.

Yes, and it was in fact almost four years ago.

This podcast was relaunched after your departure three years ago.

So much has happened in the world since then.

But before we dive into All Things Pod,

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