Hi, it's David Remnick.

Now, the last few weeks, if you're a regular listener, you've probably noticed a slight change in the podcast.

Change can be hard, but I think the results are worth it.

We're delivering two episodes to you every week, each about a half hour long.

And it's the same exact contents of the radio hour that we're broadcasting,

but we've rearranged it for the best listening experience.

Let's go to it.

I basically just think it would be interesting to look at the emergence of a criminal economy.

And also, I'm always amazed that there aren't more profiles of her out there.

This really subversive, strange thing, in rap, especially, and see what their lives are like on both

sides of the border. From One World Trade Center in Manhattan, this is The New Yorker Radio Hour,

a co-production of WNYC Studios and The New Yorker.

Welcome to The New Yorker Radio Hour.

I'm David Remnick.

I'd like to introduce you now to a young writer from Ireland named Sally Rooney.

Rooney is a classic overachiever.

In college, she got into competitive debate and ended up as the number one debater in all of Europe.

At 23, Rooney sat down to write a novel,

which she did writing most of the novel in just three months. That novel got published and has

been getting tons of buzz and excited reviews, including a great review in the New Yorker from

staff writer Alexandra Schwartz. It's been a long time since I've been as excited about a novel and particularly a debut novel as I've been about conversations with friends.

It is a story about a young student at Trinity College, Dublin, named Francis, and her best friend Bobby. They are brainy, brilliant,

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