Welcome everyone to season four of learning how to see. In this season, we're going to be looking at the question, do I stay Christian? And if so, how? And if not, how? How am I going to be a human being going forward? And in this season, I'll have some amazing conversation partners, including the

wonderful, poetic, brilliant author, Barbara Brown-Taylor, the passionate, intense, fun, energetic,

pastor, Reverend Dr. Jackie Lewis from Middle Church in New York City, and the eco-spiritual activist

from Santa Fe, New Mexico, Todd Winward. So before you get to hear these conversations with

these dear friends, I wanted to bring together some other dear friends from the Center for Action

Contemplation, who we've been working together in various ways in recent years, and we're going to take a little

retrospective as we look back on the first three seasons of learning how to see. I am very, very grateful that I get to have, as my conversation partners today,

some wonderful friends and colleagues from the Center for Action and Contemplation.

And as we begin, I want to invite each of them to introduce themselves.

First, Gigi and Mike have been kind of my co-hosts and partners in crime through the first three seasons of learning how to

see. And we'll have a new guest also from the CAC team, Dawson Allen, too. But Gigi, I wonder if you

could just introduce yourself to folks

who may not know you and tell them a little bit about what you do at the CAC.

Sure. Gigi Ross, I am the living school manager, which means that my focus is on the

student experience of the living school. And also, as we are continuing to improve and refine the program, making sure that input

from the students gets involved in that as well.

Thanks, Gigi.

Hey, Mike.

Tell us a little bit about yourself and your role at CAC.

Sure.

My name is Michael Petro.

I work with the department here at CAC that focuses on our education

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