Welcome to Part 2 of my interview with Dr Boyd Kathy.

Today we will be discussing the Southern Poverty Law Center, Classic Hollywood, and having hope for the future.

Chapter 8, you talk about, this is, I thought this was fascinating, but the Southern Poverty Law Center, and you did a very extensive, I was actually surprised how extensive, search into Morris D and his organization and who he is and this got you more or less

blacklisted from publishing in certain sources you say in the book.

So I was hoping...

This is about 15 years ago, excuse me, about 15 years ago I was commissioned to do a research

study on Morris D's and his group called the Southern Poverty Law Center.

And my decision to do it, it's a long study heavily footnoted,

I decided to use only sources that were you might call on the left if you will.

In other words I used magazines like the Progressive Harpers.

There were a series of about 15 or 16 articles, investigative articles

written by newspaper reporters, the Montgomery advertiser, which is not a right-wing newspaper by any means but anyway these

were investigative articles about the operation and what I found was that the operation the operation of the Southern Poverty Law Center was a money machine.

In other words, they would rake in millions and millions of dollars.

In fact, I think they sit now on what a couple hundred

million dollars and the the work they did to support uh... efforts that social

justice that federal were very miniscule

increasingly they became a what they an anti-hate machine they would label

anybody that they did not like and usually this was people who were conservative

who did not share their socially liberal and left-wing views

they would find a label for them call them racist or a Nazi or a fascist or a holocaust and

I or whatever.

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