My friends, today is a conversation with a long-time dream guest, Mr. Grant Fisher. If you're an American or you are a fan of track and field, you probably know who Grant is because he is one of the greatest American distance runners ever in the history of the sport of running, and he's only 28 years old. He's got a big career ahead of him, and he's got a lot of things left on his radar. But what's crazy is when he won an NCAA title as a sophomore, Coach Mill, who's been on the podcast many times before, sat him down, junior year and said, figure out how much you care about this running thing. That conversation led the American records, world records, an Olympic medal. Today, Grant opens up about the moment. He almost coasted through his own potential while why he blew up everything before the 2024 Olympics, new coach, new city, new training, complete blank slate, as he called it, and what it feels like when you can't force the magic, but you know you have to ride it when it comes.

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conversation with one of the best athletes ever in the sport of running, Mr. Grant Fisher.

Grant Fisher, take me into the conversation you had with Coach Mill flying flying back from Indoor Nationals, your junior year.

All right, yeah, you're making me digging the archives here.

That was almost a decade ago now.

Yeah, Indoor Nationals that year had kind of been wavering through the season on what my priorities were.

And, you know, I was at a high-performing

school so the main thing pulling me at that time was school um I was in an I was in the engineering

department classes were really hard I was dedicating a lot of time to classes and trying to do well

in those and because of that running was taking a bit of a backseat, a little bit of a hit. And yeah, I hadn't performed very well at indoor nationals. And Coach Mill, I think he called me up. I don't think he came back to where I was because I was sitting with other athletes. And he called me up to where he was sitting. And we sat down and had a discussion. It was basically like, hey, man, you need to sit down and figure out how much you care about this running thing.

And if you do care about it, like I'm in it 100% with you.

But if you're phasing out of it, let's have that conversation too and see if we can make this work and find a good balance for you.

And it was something I hadn't really thought about.

Like I just kind of always done running and been pretty good at it and had fun and enjoyed

the team and kind of been able to balance everything well.

But that was the first time someone really sat me down and said, hey man, like think about

what you care about and why.

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